Ok… lets give Part 2 a go (It’s like a homework assignment.. lol)

Jesus Died For All

The argument here is that Jesus died for all therefore all will be saved

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So what is going to happen to all these people who are in death when death is abolished?
They will come forth vivified (made alive beyond the reach of death) (1Cor.15:22).
They will have their lives justified and will be constituted righteous:
Romans 5:18 Consequently, then, as it was through one offense for all mankind for condemnation, thus also it is through one just award for all mankind for life’s justifying.
Romans 5:19 For even as, through the disobedience of the one man, the many were constituted sinners, thus also, through the obedience of the One, the many shall be constituted just.
All will be reconciled to God (Col.1:20)
All will be headed up in Christ (Eph.1:10)
All will bow the knee in the name of Jesus and acclaim with their tongue that “Jesus Christ is Lord” to the glory of God, the Father (Phil.2:9-11).
And we know that anyone who acclaims that Jesus Christ is Lord, especially when it is to God’s glory without any hypocrisy is saved for 1Corinthians 12:3 says so.

In John 12:32, Jesus said he will draw all men to himself, however in John 5:40, he says that not all men will come to him so they can have life…this does not mean that Jesus will not draw all men to himself, it means that not all men will accept him.

Rom. 5:18 and 1 Cor. 15:21, 22 talks about all being ressurrected and made alive in Christ.

1 Cor 15:22 is quote especially to show that all men will be made alive in Christ, as though all men will be saved, however, Paul continues:

1 Co 15:23–26 But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ. 24 Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

At Jesus coming, the first ressurection will happen for those who belong to Jesus.. after that, there is the second resurrection Revelation 20:6 and then the second death which is the last enemy to be destroyed…but in both cases, all men are resurrected and made alive, however, this does not mean that all are made alive as though they are saved.

John 5:28, 29; Dan. 12:2 – here we see that all will be resurrected, but some to everlasting life, and some to everlasing contempt….so all who are made alive in Christ, does not necessarily mean that they will be made alive in the sense of all saved.

Col.1:20 – used to show that all will be reconciled to God, meaning all will be saved.

Here is my issue with this verse that people try to use to say all will be saved

and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross.

This verse says that all things whether in heaven or on earth will be reconciled to God.. how can this refer to all things since this would mean that even the Devil, the false prophet, the beast would be included? How can this be since in Revelation 20:10 they were thrown into the lake of fire and sulphur to be tormented day and night?

Also, the last part of this scripture talks about peace through the blood of the cross, but not all accept Jesus and recieve the cleansing blood of the cross? Redemption requires repentance Eph. 1:7 …so this reconciliation still has to come through Jesus by repentance and forgiveness.

Philippians 2:10 talks again about every knee shall bow, in heaven, earth and under the earth proclaiming Jesus Christ is Lord, and then this is used to show that this must mean that since 1 Corinthians 12:3 shows that no one can say Jesus Christ is Lord except by the Holy Spirit, then this must mean that everyone who says it must belong to God and saved? But, how can this be so? Again it makes me think of the devil etc.

What this means to me is that EVERY living thing will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Everything that has lived or is living will acknowledge who Jesus is.. it does not mean all will be saved…this makes tons of sense since when everyone is resurrected, all will see Jesus and know exactly who he is.

So again, for me, Jesus dying for all does not mean that all will be saved because not all will accept him.

(I’ll end this bit as part 2).

Go to part 3 of Universalism